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Post by skilesarmy on Oct 27, 2009 17:28:30 GMT -7
my team is going to have a rough start with all of these injuries
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Post by fattykid2000 on Oct 27, 2009 19:53:35 GMT -7
I think you boys are in trouble.. The HIBACHI IS BACK...
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Post by fattykid2000 on Oct 31, 2009 19:37:34 GMT -7
David Lee BENCHED!!!!!!
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Post by fnamazin on Oct 31, 2009 20:47:57 GMT -7
Is that what happened? I was wondering why his #s were down after tonights game. Ariza is stepping up big time right now and making Kenny "The Jet" Smith look like an idiot for calling him an 8 shot a night player.
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Post by fnamazin on Oct 31, 2009 20:57:14 GMT -7
When was he benched in the second half? Yahoo shows that he started at center.
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Post by fattykid2000 on Oct 31, 2009 21:21:19 GMT -7
yeee.... Baby AL came in a poured 42 off the bench... I think Dantoni might go wit the Baby AL and Galinari combo in the 4th quarter.. Should be interestin to see..
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Post by Pacer Pride on Oct 31, 2009 21:29:57 GMT -7
Is that what happened? I was wondering why his #s were down after tonights game. Ariza is stepping up big time right now and making Kenny "The Jet" Smith look like an idiot for calling him an 8 shot a night player. I agree with Kenny the other night...he's not in a good position right now to get a lot of shots off,and make them with that current Rockets squad minus Yao/Tmac/ traded Artest.
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Post by fnamazin on Oct 31, 2009 22:57:47 GMT -7
Is that what happened? I was wondering why his #s were down after tonights game. Ariza is stepping up big time right now and making Kenny "The Jet" Smith look like an idiot for calling him an 8 shot a night player. I agree with Kenny the other night...he's not in a good position right now to get a lot of shots off,and make them with that current Rockets squad minus Yao/Tmac/ traded Artest. You mean he's in a good position to get allot of shots right? I would assume no McGrady or Yao would allow him to take more shots not the opposite.
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Post by Pacer Pride on Nov 1, 2009 20:05:38 GMT -7
I agree with Kenny the other night...he's not in a good position right now to get a lot of shots off,and make them with that current Rockets squad minus Yao/Tmac/ traded Artest. You mean he's in a good position to get allot of shots right? I would assume no McGrady or Yao would allow him to take more shots not the opposite. You would think,but with that team...there is not a lot of attention on other players where Ariza will be forced into traps and sometimes near impossible shot attempts. He's a 8-12 shot a game shooter at best. 15 maybe with Yao/Tmac.
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Post by Pacer Pride on Nov 1, 2009 20:09:20 GMT -7
Da' Champ on the ropes early this season ,both here and in the NBA.
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Post by fattykid2000 on Nov 1, 2009 20:41:19 GMT -7
Da' Champ on the ropes early this season ,both here and in the NBA. Waow... Easily could have been 8-2 for Da Champ.. Probably the closest matchup I have participated in.. Rudy Gay might have to be dropped tonite 4 for 7 from the line
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Post by fattykid2000 on Nov 5, 2009 6:43:26 GMT -7
2 games with under 10 minutes played for the number one overall pick.. It might be time to just cut your losses and pick up a hot FA.. MAZER
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Post by kramedawgz22 on Nov 5, 2009 11:36:53 GMT -7
2 games with under 10 minutes played for the number one overall pick.. It might be time to just cut your losses and pick up a hot FA.. MAZER With Don Nelson running the show, that would be retarded. Randolph's definitely worth stashing on the bench for now and eating the spot for a little while to see how it plays out
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Post by skilesarmy on Nov 5, 2009 15:30:10 GMT -7
yea plus he isnt 100% once he is he will play a lot more
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Post by fnamazin on Nov 5, 2009 15:40:14 GMT -7
I just find it funny that every single announcer from ESPN to TNT and then my local Suns broadcasters along with every columnist that writes about fantasy basketball have praised this kids talent but yet Nellie seems to be the only one in the dark here.
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Post by skilesarmy on Nov 5, 2009 18:33:51 GMT -7
chris douglas roberts is looking like an ok pickup at this point....cant wait to get howard and love back
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Post by fnamazin on Nov 5, 2009 18:46:01 GMT -7
chris douglas roberts is looking like an ok pickup at this point....cant wait to get howard and love back I wonder how he got his PG eligibility? I don't know a whole lot about him but he was being considered a strong sleeper candidate after his solid pre-season.
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Post by fnamazin on Nov 6, 2009 3:50:48 GMT -7
Warriors fans probably ought to get used to Don Nelson screwing around with Anthony Randolph’s minutes.
It’s not tough-love. It’s just Nelson not liking Randolph’s game (AR does stuff like play defense and hustle, but Nellie only rewards shooting and passing, NOT defense), or, if he plays him, it’ll strictly be as a center, and probably as a back-up center. Fair enough: A coach likes who he likes.
But barring further injuries along the frontline or Nelson deciding to reverse course strictly to quiet the Randolph Crowd (doubtful), this is happening. Again.
Randolph: 7 MINUTES LAST NIGHT. I know that registered in Warriorsland, because I’ve heard many shouts and shrieks of agony.
It’s happening again.
It happened last year (with Rob Kurz and Corey Maggette getting far more PF minutes), supposedly because Nelson really loved Randolph but just wanted to teach him how to be an NBA player, with the traditional warmth and kindness of a larger Mr. Miyagi.
Randolph got time when everybody else got hurt, and he was good. Nelson’s point was proven!
Except none of the essential parts of the myth were true–they just didn’t like each other, it happens, no big scandal-but the Nelson homers convinced themselves of the tough-love/mentor-pupil myth, and repeated it often. Made them feel better.
Once Randolph tore up Summer League and was invited to practice with Team USA, it was loudly proclaimed that Randolph not only now looked to Nelson like a mentor, but that Nelson would forever lock Randolph into the starting power-forward spot.
First hint that the spring/summer myth was not true: RIght before training camp, Nelson said Nelson was “about the laziest rookie I ever had,” which is not backed up by hard evidence or by anybody who was at Warriors practice last year.
Then Nelson started praising Brandan Wright, of all people, while saying Randolph was not at a high level. After Wright was lost for the year, Randolph bruised his back, and his preseason play fell off even more.
Now? Nelson can’t play Randolph alongside Andris Biedrins–neither shoots a reliable jumper. Nelson might think about playing Randolph alongside Ronny Turiaf (who has a bit of a jumpshot), but Turiaf has an iffy knee right now.
At this point, Randolph is a back-up center, and often behind Mikki Moore in the rotation, as he was last night.
Some of this changes if Biedrins, who wrenched his back last night, can’t go for a few games. We’ll see what the team says today.
But the main issue remains: Randolph isn’t Nelson’s cup of tea (and vice-versa), the mentor-pupil thing was a myth perpetuated by dreamers. If Randolph gets consistent minutes, it will be because of injury or accident, not because Nelson wants it that way.
I guess this article pretty much sums it up and unless Randolph gets traded away since Nellie thinks he's a bum or Nellie gets fired which is highly unlikely then I guess Randolph is destined to be held back from reaching his true potential. Now I will admit though that after watching him against my home town Suns recently I noticed Randolph lacked the toughness needed in order to go up against the much stronger big men in the NBA. the way I see it is 6'11'' 220 or not he probably would be better off playing at SF since he has the quickness and handles to keep up with them but is a long way from competing at PF/C. This next off-season I would suggest Randolph hit the gym.
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Post by fnamazin on Nov 6, 2009 4:07:48 GMT -7
With news that Andris Biedrins suffered a back injury on Wednesday, there could be glimmer of hope for Anthony Randolph, who is suddenly a full-time center in the eyes of Don Nelson. But even if Biedrins doesn't miss time, Tim Kawakami of the Mercury News breaks down the Nellie & Ant-Rand relationship, as well as projects Randolph's potential playing time, game-by-game, through the end of November. The near future simply looks bleak for Randolph, but the attached link is a must-read for his fantasy owners. Nov. 5 - 4:39 pm et
I bet Nellie would probably consider starting Mikki Moore or even Maggete at center before he would give it to AR at this point. Curse You Nellie! Curse You!
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Post by anchorman on Nov 6, 2009 15:04:40 GMT -7
Drafting people who play for Nellie is like drafting pitchers who play for Dusty Baker... best to be avoided like the plague.
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Post by fnamazin on Nov 6, 2009 20:06:10 GMT -7
Drafting people who play for Nellie is like drafting pitchers who play for Dusty Baker... best to be avoided like the plague. Yeah I've always avoided Warriors players until this year. I have 3 of them now and only Ellis/Jackson seem to be worth owning at this point. Even Biedrins minutes have been fucked with thus far and it's showing in his production.
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Post by Pacer Pride on Nov 6, 2009 20:21:07 GMT -7
Drafting people who play for Nellie is like drafting pitchers who play for Dusty Baker... best to be avoided like the plague. Yeah I've always avoided Warriors players until this year. I have 3 of them now and only Ellis/Jackson seem to be worth owning at this point. Even Biedrins minutes have been fucked with thus far and it's showing in his production. Are you guys saying it's similar to owning Denver RB's in the past with Shanahan at the helm
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Post by fnamazin on Nov 14, 2009 14:03:41 GMT -7
Nelson's abrasive style might have him on way out Nov. 14, 2009 By Ken Berger CBSSports.com Senior Writer Tell Ken your opinion!
NEW YORK -- The fact that Don Nelson bears a striking resemblance to Boris Yeltsin is good for a few laughs, and humor is one way to cut through the bickering, hurt feelings, and distrust that have engulfed the once lovable Warriors. But when I strolled through the Internet on Friday night to confirm my look-alike suspicions, I stumbled across the following passage on Wikipedia that would've been funny if it weren't so apropos to what's happening with the Bay Area Republic of Dysfunction:
Yeltsin never recovered his popularity after a series of economic and political crises in Russia in the 1990s. The Yeltsin era was marked by widespread corruption, economic collapse, and enormous political and social problems. By the time he left office, Yeltsin had an approval rating of 2 percent by some estimates.
A coach like that would be welcomed as a conquering hero in the Warriors' locker room. And as it turns out, a coach with a much higher approval rating could be on his way to the top seat on the Warriors' bench.
After beating the Knicks 121-107 on Friday night, Nelson stands only 21 wins shy of becoming the NBA's all-time winningest coach. But his insistence on alienating and humiliating his best players -- which continued at Madison Square Garden even in victory -- could soon lead to a coaching change, a high-level coaching source told CBSSports.com.
With no realistic trade scenarios emerging for Stephen Jackson -- and with the team's other miserable star, Monta Ellis, wanting out, too -- Nelson's last option to keep the team from blowing up already is under consideration. Nelson, 69, would assume a consultant role, with top assistant Keith Smart taking over as head coach.
"It could happen by next week," the source said.
• Warriors cruise past slumping Knicks
Nothing is ever 100 percent with the Warriors; not even the players know who's making the decisions or whom they can trust in the organization, a second person familiar with the team's problems said. A third source said the timing of Smart's ascension to head coach is difficult to predict simply because of the person who'd be making that decision.
"Nellie would," the person said.
When confronted about the possibility of stepping aside only eight games into a two-year, $12 million extension, Nelson crafted a bullet-proof answer. He insisted he has no intentions of going anywhere other than the Bradley Center, where the Warriors play the second half of a back-to-back Saturday night. Thanks to Nellie, they'll do so with their two stars, Jackson and Ellis, coming off inexplicable 47- and 45-minute performances, respectively, against the Knicks. "Oh, I have the patience, yes," Nelson said when I asked if he had the staying power to continue coaching/imploding this team. "The team wanted me to come back for two more years. I signed that contract and I will abide by that."
But nowhere does it say that Nelson has to fill out lineup cards or draw up plays to fulfill that contract. It was sad, pathetic really, that this brilliant basketball man's idea of coaching Friday night was leaving the disgruntled Jackson on the floor for all but 35 seconds of a blowout. For good measure, he also embarrassed No. 7 overall pick Curry in the very building where he'd hoped to spend his NBA career. If Curry thought he might face some dysfunction if the Knicks had picked him at No. 8, these few months with Nelson have been quite the education.
"I've just got to be ready when my time comes," Curry said.
Nelson had made a point of praising Curry during our conversation at the Warriors' morning shootaround. But even when he praises someone, he manages to insult someone else.
"He's going to be our future point guard for many, many years," Nelson said. "And I feel we'll build the team around him."
Funny, that's what the organization told Ellis, too. Oh, never mind. The Warriors' revised plan -- Curry's 2:35 run Friday night, notwithstanding -- explains why one source familiar with the situation said Nelson has been actively looking to trade Ellis, too.
"He wants Monta out," the source said.
After the game, all Nelson could come up with to explain Curry's cameo was a lame joke about how Curry doesn't have any tattoos. This is what it's come to in Golden State: lame lines about body art. Too bad Nelson wasn't aware that Curry does have a tattoo on his left wrist. It displays his No. 30 and the letters "TCC."
"Trust, commitment, character," Curry explained.
Three things that are long gone from this wayward franchise.
As for burning out his two stars on the front end of a back-to-back, Nelson said, "I'm a little reluctant, at least early in the season, to make substitutions. I don't think there's any fatigue factor. Everybody's still fresh enough, and they haven't been playing in the 40s anyway."
When I asked if fatigue might be an issue Saturday night in Milwaukee, Nelson said, with a straight face, "That could very well be. We'll probably need our bench a little bit more tomorrow."
If I can see through Nelson's childish games, just imagine what the players think. Jackson and Ellis, according to sources, aren't the only players already mentally exhausted by Nelson's act. What's worse, one of the people said, is that the players have to endure laughable team president Robert Rowell trying to be their pal -- the way he did when he usurped then-GM Chris Mullin's authority and signed Jackson to a three-year, $28 million extension last November. Yes, the very same extension that is preventing Golden State from being able to trade him.
"Rowell tries to be their friend, and they laugh at him," one of the sources said. "They don't respect that. ... All these problems and fights in the locker room come from the fact that there is no one the players feel they can communicate with. Nobody."
Appointing Smart to replace Nelson would be a good place to start. For one thing, it would spare the Warriors the embarrassment of continuing this charade with Jackson, whose only hope of getting traded appears to be a pennies-on-the-dollar deal with Cleveland. NBA front office sources say Golden State continues to field no worthwhile offers for Jackson, whose bad contract is exceeded only by his baggage.
"That's a lot of money, and a lot of years," an Eastern Conference GM said. "And if he's angry there after they just gave him a big contract, he's going to be angry someplace else."
Jackson said Friday he's not angry with Nelson, but rather with the fact that he was given the impression the Warriors would be "more of a veteran team" this season. Though Jackson didn't elaborate, a person familiar with the situation said his anger -- and Ellis' -- stems from a dinner meeting with Rowell at the end of last season in which the Warriors' president vowed to surround them with a playoff-caliber supporting cast. According to the source, Rowell told the players he was going to build around them and trade the No. 7 pick, because adding a rookie "isn't going to help us."
The supporting cast that Jackson and Ellis were promised could have included Amar'e Stoudemire. But a trade with Phoenix fell apart on draft night, when Nelson refused to part with the pick and instead selected Curry, who is the same player as Ellis, only younger. Ellis couldn't believe it. Jackson was furious. And here we are today.
Nelson's head-butting with Jackson has been going on since preseason, when the two had an ugly, profane shouting match during a game against the Lakers. Jackson was suspended two games without pay. But the equally damaged relationship between Nelson and Ellis finally boiled over publicly on this road trip to New York. On Friday, a day after he and Ellis had a verbal confrontation after practice, Nelson said, "I disciplined a player in practice. That's part of my job description. I've done it before and I'll do it again. That's all I've got to say about it."
Ellis tried to brush off the incident Friday night, saying, "It's nothing. We left that where it was."
Until the next blowup.
Here's an idea for the Warriors: Leave your coach in the Bay Area the next time you leave on a road trip. The approval rating for that decision would be off the charts.
Here's hoping for those of us who own Warriors that Nellie's rein could be coming to an end soon.
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Post by fattykid2000 on Nov 14, 2009 14:15:16 GMT -7
Hey.. I am pretty happy.. Da Cap played all but 35 seconds yesterday.. lol
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Post by fnamazin on Nov 14, 2009 14:20:11 GMT -7
Hey.. I am pretty happy.. Da Cap played all but 35 seconds yesterday.. lol Yeah but if you read the article you'll realize that Nellie didn't exactly do that as a favor. The two guys he's been having heat with lately stayed on the floor for over 40 minutes and I doubt it was just a coincidence.
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Post by fattykid2000 on Nov 14, 2009 15:05:00 GMT -7
Hey.. I am pretty happy.. Da Cap played all but 35 seconds yesterday.. lol Yeah but if you read the article you'll realize that Nellie didn't exactly do that as a favor. The two guys he's been having heat with lately stayed on the floor for over 40 minutes and I doubt it was just a coincidence. Dude.. I read the article this morning at like 6 AM.. and this is the risk that comes from drafting Warriors.. Nellie is fucked in the head and this kinda of shit is to be expected... I really don't need to read every other day you whining about how your prized prodigy isn't being played. For a guy that supposively knows about BBALL .. Drafting a 19 year old kid who isn't even starting in the NBA and plays under Don Nelson of all people who hates playing rookies was the dumbest thing I think I have ever seen.. T BTW... This is the reason why Da Cap and Monte played extended minutes last night... ."I'm a little reluctant, at least early in the season, to make substitutions. I don't think there's any fatigue factor. and they haven't been playing in the 40s anyway."
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Post by The Squeeze! on Nov 17, 2009 18:22:57 GMT -7
I bet OC can appreciate his boy from Compton....Brandon Jennings as the pickup and ROY !!!! So much talent!!!!
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Post by fattykid2000 on Nov 17, 2009 19:38:48 GMT -7
JENNINGS FOR MVP!!!!
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Post by The Squeeze! on Nov 17, 2009 19:44:11 GMT -7
all in good time good man....he looks damn good though, its about time the bucks have something to get up for!!!
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Post by Pacer Pride on Nov 18, 2009 1:36:24 GMT -7
I bet OC can appreciate his boy from Compton....Brandon Jennings as the pickup and ROY !!!! So much talent!!!! He's more of a Curry guy Jennings is even getting kids from my Nash/club programs talking about his game. When young kids with short tension spans are talking about Jennings ,you know he's starting to hit the big time. Lets see if he can keep it up during the long grind of an NBA season...
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